Chahoua X Ciliatus....

[untytled]

You don't realize it, but there are tons of perfectly healthy hybrid animals out there. Like the Parrot Head. It's some sort of fish bred to a type of severum I believe...

They might be sterile unlike cilatusXchahoua hybrids who are still fertile and retain sperm???

Well, out of all the people who have done it, I haven't seen anything bad that has happened yet.  They all say the hybrid is perfectly healthy and everything else.

Yet!! key word "Yet"!

Renato

[KatiesCresteds]

They are sterile, yes, yet still are thriving just fine.

There are genetic deformaties in everything. Doesn't matter if it is hybrid or not. My cousin's baby was born pre-mature...doesn't mean there was a problem with genetics.

If it is proven they breed in captivety and reproduce, I'm pretty sure there are a few little hybrids out in the wild right now. Just because they are a mix of two species does not mean they are sick, or can't survive on their own.

[smith710]

Like almost everybody says, look at dogs... How often do you find a pure bred dog.. Just because it is a mix of two or more dogs doesn't make anything wrong with it.

[untytled]

They are sterile, yes, yet still are thriving just fine.

There are genetic deformaties in everything. Doesn't matter if it is hybrid or not. My cousin's baby was born pre-mature...doesn't mean there was a problem with genetics.

If it is proven they breed in captivety and reproduce, I'm pretty sure there are a few little hybrids out in the wild right now. Just because they are a mix of two species does not mean they are sick, or can't survive on their own.

I never said hybrids were sick, you've got me all wrong. I Actually Like the look of hybrid rhacs i just don't like people playing around with them.

It all precipitates down to me not trusting people when it comes to how careful they'll be.

"Everyone" has there own definition of carefulness and carelessness!

I'm not being rude, but how do you know there are in fact little rhac hybrids running around in the wild?? If breeding vigor is as strong to remain within their own species how do you know what choice they'll make when the possibility of a potential mate crosses their path?

All in all i can only be certain of the decisons i make when it comes to breeding. When it comes to everyone else, I have no way of knowing WHAT they've done, well i guess they'll just have to be careful, or should I? Guess that's what i'm doin. 

Renato

[smith710]

What do you mean by playing around with them?  If you mean, people buying hybrids then breeding them over again to make 25% then I don't like that either...  Also, if you mean like people selling them saying they are something that they are not, I also agree.  People definately should be careful with stuff like that.  And like I said, I will be extremely careful with my hybrids and I probably won't sell them.  And if I do sell them, it would only be to someone I trust.

[sciteacher]

Like almost everybody says, look at dogs... How often do you find a pure bred dog.. Just because it is a mix of two or more dogs doesn't make anything wrong with it.

I told myself I wouldn't jump in on this one. It's been debated to death on so many forums and I'm tired of saying the same thing. Just wanted to point out that your analogy doesn't quite work. Dogs are all members of the same species regardless of what breed they are. This is much different than the ciliatus X chahoua cross you're talking about.

Gary

[smith710]

How do you figure that it is much different?

[sciteacher]

How do you figure that it is much different?

As I already said... all dogs belong to the same species. The different breeds have been selectively bred over many generations for certain characteristics, just like breeders are trying to breed crested geckos with large dalmation spots, or extra large crests. They may look a little different, but they remain the same species fully capable of interbreeding because they all arose from common ancestors. Ciliatus and Chahouas belong to different species... that's a very different story. They may have had common ancestors long ago, but the phylogenetic tree split a long time ago and the two paths diverged... "and that has made all the difference" (excuse the Robert Frost reference LOL)

Gary

[untytled]

Canis lupus familiarisXCanis lupus familiaris

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Rhacodactylus ciiatusXRhacodactylus chahoua