What is this cute little guy?

[Samantha12986]

I found him in the "Free" section on Craigslist. He's about 6 months old and originally came from Petco I was told.

[zuk450]

I really want  to call it a tiger, maybe a brindle... but its almost like a low contrast harlequin without the flame dorsal srtipe... AND its got a little phantom pinstriping and a few dal spots  going on too! definetly unique.

its almost like you took all the known crestie morphs and threw them in the "melting pot" so to speak haha. that one is a little bit of everything

[amcclain1092]

I would say marbled.
It's probably not from AC's new marble line but it looks like it has similar characteristics.

[Samantha12986]

Zuk450: It does seem to be a bit of everything. When I first picked him up, I wanted to call it a tiger and even named him "Tiger" haha. Then when I had a chance to look at the pics (which are easier to look at since they don't squirm and run and jump), I realized there was definitely more going on than just a tiger morph. I posted him on Pangea and he has everyone over there stumped too. I love how unique he is. Another weird thing is that his front legs are solid and the rear legs are patterned, I don't think I've seen that in any other gecko that I've personally had.

amcclain1092: Some people on Pangea mentioned that it could be a marble also, but I have no idea what that is (besides the fact that he kinda looks like a marble cake lol). I haven't seen marble in any of the morph guides that I've looked at. Do you have a link to one?

Thanks for weighing in :-)

[amcclain1092]

AC doesn't have a link up for marble yet, but he has mentioned it to me and I have a marble baby from him



This baby is straight from AC and 2g in the picture 

[amcclain1092]

The marble in the picture is very VERY extreme, yours may be a marble just possible reduced patterning marble?

It's hard to tell when they're so young.

[Samantha12986]

Yes, I can see what you're talking about. Thanks for posting the picture :-) Some people were guessing extreme harley because we weren't sure if the base color was the gray or the yellow. I saw him fired up last night and the gray area fired up much darker so I'm assuming the yellow must be the base. So I'm leaning towards marble with you.

[amcclain1092]

Hey finally found the AC link to the Marble line

http://www.acreptiles.com/geckos_crested_collection_Marble.htm

[crazytanak]

what exactly is phantom pin and reverse pin? are they the same thing? pics would be most helpful of really good examples of each

[zuk450]

i dont have any pics available but here how i understand it:

reverse pinstripe- pinstripe scales will usually be matching the base coloration of the animal but the area directly surrounding the dorsal srtipe,(very upper lateral area) will be darker than the rest of the animal almost like it has dark pinstriping.

Phantom pinstripe- a gecko(usually) patternless or tiger morph with raised/developed "pinstripe scales" that are matching in color to the rest of the animal rather than being the typical cream or white color.

ill try to find some pics to post later on today if no one beats me to it  hope that helps a bit!

[amcclain1092]

I think you're part correct about the phantoms BUT recently I think stuff has changed.
The phantom pinstripe doesn't necessairily have to match the color of the scales of the gecko.
Originally pinstriping was only seen on flames or harlys, so it was considered new when they got a paternless gecko to still have pinstriping and then it got its own name.
The pinstripes can be any color (as AC has proved by producing phantom pinstripes with pure white scales.)
I have some phantom pinstripes where they have the pinstriping 100% but it changes color back and forth down the gecko.
At least this is how I have taken it from all the phantom's I've seen.

[crazytanak]

amcclain, if the pinstripe color changes as it goes down the back wouldnt that be a partial pin?

[amcclain1092]

Not necessarily. If the scales are raised (as they are in pinstripes) and they are raised ALL the way down the back, it is still a full pinstripe, independent of what color the pins are.
That's how there's fader pinstripes and such or anthony has the phantom pins that have partial WHITE pins, but are still full pinstripes.
It's hard to explain without showing you, and it's gotten a lot more confusing since the introduction of phantom pins
I think it's hard to draw the line on whats a full pin or phantom pin or partial pin because really it kinda comes down to the person looking at the geckos.

The reason I say the color change is irrelevant is because there can be full pinstripe phantom pins with their pins not being white.

[crazytanak]

I think i just need to see pictures. the only raised scales i know of is the crests. Pinstripe in ball pythons is a lot easier, lol