Pastel ball?

[smith710]

Ok, I'm not big into the ball python morph thing and all that stuff.  I have a chance to grab this male for $100 and I have a female that's more than ready to breed right now.  Does this look like a pastel to you and do you think it's worth $100?

[firecrested]

It looks like a pastel but $100 is too much for a male.  They sell here all the time for $50.  The pet store here has them listed at $80

[smith710]

Really??? It's hard to get a normal around here for $50.  I also forgot to mention that it's a proven male, does this make any difference?

[bad-one]

He is a definite 100% pastel, and pretty nice looking too. Sometimes a proven male will cost more( matters a lot more for females).

I agree  about the price thing, I would have trouble getting a pastel male for anything less than 150. When it comes to price, I think thats pretty good and he is good looking to me.

What matters is if you are happy with him for the price 

[portal_reptiles]

Kingsnake prices...
$210
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=663237

$175
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=661993

$275
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=658765

[Liz]

well we just found out that he is pastel a friend of ours produced it so we are goign to go look at him tomorrow and we will see what happens

[portal_reptiles]

well if it dont work out, i would take him for that price...

[smith710]

Wel, the problem now is wether or not the snake is healthy.  We were talking to someone and supposedly he has some pretty bad snakes, so we definitely have to take a look at it first, we have no clue how old that picture is.

[firecrested]

Kingsnake prices...
$210
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=663237

$175
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=661993

$275
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=658765

That's insanely high for a male pastel .  They are listed at that but are they selling.

[bad-one]

I've seen $300 dollar males sale...

[firecrested]

Last year and this year?  I dont see how they're asking that much.  They're fifty bucks all day here.  I bought an adult male for $300 3 or 4 years ago but the prices are way down now.

[smith710]

Since I've seen this guys I've been looking up a ton of stuff about pastels. Firecrested, are you sure that they are really Pastels and not just nice looking normals being passed off as pastels?  From everything I have been looking up about them, it is very uncommon to see any pastel under $150, BUT I've also noticed alot of people saying that people are selling "pastels" for dirt cheap, but are not really pastels.  They just happen to be nice looking normals that they are trying to pass off as pastels.  After looking and looking and looking, if you have pastels around your area all day for $50-$80 and they are actually real pastels, I HIGHLY suggest grabbing every single one of them and throwing them online for $150 each, cuz I can almost guarantee you will get it.

[firecrested]

I am positive they are pastels.  Smaller pastels are easy to tell apart from normals when they are young, they are much brighter.
The males are going for $50, and females for $100 to $200.  I just got back from the pet store and he has one left for $119 and he charges double whatever he pays.

i dont know what's with the price increase but they were on kingsnake last year for $100 or less for males.  The price on some of the kingsnake ads are just about spider ball prices.  They dropped down to $300 last year and I got mine at a discount for $200 because I knew the breeder.

[bad-one]

 Its pretty obvious thats its either a good normal or a crappy pastel( well to those familiar with the morphs). I can see things being pulled on newbies to ball pythons.

Besides the one sure fire test- check for green eyes ( and yeah, baby pastels are very easy to point out)

As for buying them all up and reselling.... I'd have to agree. You could turn a decent profit, pending quality of the the pastels.

[firecrested]

Its pretty obvious thats its either a good normal or a crappy pastel( well to those familiar with the morphs). I can see things being pulled on newbies to ball pythons.

Besides the one sure fire test- check for green eyes ( and yeah, baby pastels are very easy to point out)

As for buying them all up and reselling.... I'd have to agree. You could turn a decent profit, pending quality of the the pastels.

Nope, nice pastels, not normals, not a crappy pastel. Nice bright yellow pastels.  50 bucks.
Wait until everyone hatches out all their babies again this year.  You will see the prices drop again.  The prices listed now are not normal pastel prices.
I bought a lot of ball pythons last year at shows and online and the pastels were way lower than the ones listed now.

[firecrested]

If you're interested in buying up a big group to resell I would be more than happy to get them for anyone and send them off.  I personally want nothing to do with ball pythons anymore.  They look nice but to me they were the worst snakes I ever owned and got rid of my group of 20 in less than 2 months of owning them.
I have a friend expecting 10 clutches this year and two other guys at the show so there will be plenty.

[portal_reptiles]

firecrested....$50 each...get me 3 of them....

[smith710]

I don't have the money for a big group, but yeah, if you can grab me a couple for $50, I'd be more than happy to take them.

[firecrested]

Ok.  He's expecting eggs this month or early next month.  As soon as they hatch and start feeding I can send them off.  He's maybe 5 minutes away from me so I can probably even get pictures of the babies to pick out.
I'll see if any of the guys have any left from last year at the next show.

They are all going to be males though.

[smith710]

Alright, that will be cool. I'll definitely take a couple of males for that price.  Pics would be awesome, I trust you and everything, but at that price, I'll have to see it to believe it. Let me know for sure.

[bad-one]

Darn, i need a girl ... 

[portal_reptiles]

Darn, i need a girl ... 

i need boyz....

[bad-one]

  They look nice but to me they were the worst snakes I ever owned

I am curious...    what was so terrible about em?

[firecrested]

They just sit there curled up like a big round turd.

[bad-one]

I see your point, I'll look at em in the morning, go to school, come back and often find them in the same or barely moved. They can be lazy snakes... with the exception of hunting.

[portal_reptiles]

think the reason is because all the sweet color morphs they can produce

[honuman]

think the reason is because all the sweet color morphs they can produce

That's the appeal. You do get alot of nice things.

[honuman]

It looks like a pastel but $100 is too much for a male.  They sell here all the time for $50.  The pet store here has them listed at $80

Yes and $100 is not bad for adult male at all.   The beauty of a pastel is that if you invest in the right female morphs  you can turn out some pretty nice high end animals for an initially small investment.

[smith710]

Well, the deal fell through on this snake and another snake I was interested, so I think I'm done trying to get a pastel for now, I'll wait til after the Hamburg show to deal with that anymore. Definitely will take a couple of those $50 ones if you can get some though.