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« on: October 28, 2006, 02:30:53 PM »

 Alright I have another question tht definatley doen't have an positive answer. What morphs do you think will become popular/stay popular. The reason I ask is that I'm trying to get high quality morphs and raise them. I am on a tight budget so it wll take me 2-3 years to get a good number of animals, and I don't want to get a high priced gecko that by the time it is ready to breed be worth 1/10 of what I paided for it.

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2006, 03:50:31 PM »

I would say pinstripes myself.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2006, 06:35:47 PM »

i personally think you missed the boat on whats popular. whats popular today might not be in 2-3 years
if youre just looking to make money i think you will find yourself dissapointed if youre basing your purchases on whats popular now.

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2006, 08:34:34 PM »

Yeah, he is totally right.  But I definately think different pinstripes will be popular for a long time. I don't like the fact, as he said, that you are basically sounding like you are only doing this for the money though.  This is not something you do just for the money.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2006, 08:39:17 PM »

i personally think you missed the boat on whats popular. whats popular today might not be in 2-3 years
if youre just looking to make money i think you will find yourself dissapointed if youre basing your purchases on whats popular now.



that's right.  when i first started the harleys were the "popular" ones but now you see them all the time.  If i had to pick from what's available now i would say the red harleys or creamsicles would be the best choice.  or maybe get a red harley with partial pinstripe and pair it up with a full pinstripe and try getting full pin red harleys.  I havent seen many of them if any.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2006, 09:13:50 PM »

Alright guys this did come off the wrong way. I love cresteds and all the patterns and colors and everything about them. I really am not doing this for the money. It is just that I'm a kid and my mom is a single mother so I have to pay for cresteds and all there stuff. So i am not going to base my decision on what is popular/expensive but is what I like But if I breed them I need to have enough money to house them etc. Grin sorry we had to get off on the wrong foot.

I really like blond harlys lavender harleys pinstripes and red the most, but I love them all


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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2006, 09:38:19 PM »

I think reds are  the most popular color out of the bunch at the moment.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2006, 09:39:20 PM »

i think you shoudl go with ehatever you like
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2006, 09:43:09 PM »

I'm pretty sure I will get a blonde harlequin for my female lavender and then take it from there. has anyone seen them for sale I am having trouble finding them.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2006, 10:53:59 PM »

if you look enough one will come up for sale.  I have seen some this year for sale.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 05:41:07 PM »



Like Matt said, Pinstripes are HOT and have been for a long time.? A few pinstripes were sold for $1,000 back in 2003, which was before they were even really available.? By late 2004, they were just starting to be readily available, so they dropped to about $350 for babies and $500 for sexable adults.? As of right now, they still sell like hotcakes at that price...meaning if you don't count the 2-3 animals that were sold early for $1,000, full pinstripes have never really gone down.

Good quality red harlequins are another one that seems to be extremely popular...they sell for quite a bit more than pinstripes and really don't show any sign of slowing down.? In fact, I think they're going to be the "IT" gecko for a long time.

Of course, creamsicles are popular, but trying to produce them is frustrating.? Most breeders I know have practically thrown their hands up in the air with that project.? It seems like most babies either get the orange color and no cream, or the cream back on a dark colored gecko (with no orange).? ?I swear...I can put two creamsicles together and feel lucky if I get 2-3 creamsicles out of 14 eggs.

All that being said, the most important thing I can tell you is that GOOD, CLEAN COLOR will always be hot.  It doesn't matter what the gecko is called if it makes someone's jaw hit the floor.  I have patternless geckos and partial pinstripes that I wouldn't sell for $500.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 06:00:08 PM »

I'm no expert, but I think you will have more fun, be more dedicated and enjoy it more if you breed what you like, not what other will/may like. ?Your enthusiasm, I believe, is what will help you sell more and be more sucessful, than in it just for the money or what may be popular. ?

For example...there are 2 stores near you that sell the same thing....lets say crickets & reptile supplies. ?One is closer to you and less expensive, the other is 3 blocks further away and costs a little bit more, lets say 10-20% more. ?Instead of paying $0.8 for a cricket, it's $0.10. ?The place near your house is nice, but they're not that friendly or knowledgeable and the people there just seem to take it as a "job" or just there for the money. ?Where the place that's farther away has people who are knowledgeable, enjoy what they're doing and every time you come in are happy to see you. ?It's not just a job for them and their love of reptiles has ended up being profitable for them. ?Which place will you go to? ?
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 07:06:36 PM »

i personally think you missed the boat on whats popular. whats popular today might not be in 2-3 years
if youre just looking to make money i think you will find yourself dissapointed if youre basing your purchases on whats popular now.



I disagree about anyone missing the boat...awesome looking geckos are always in high demand.   It doesn't matter what morph it is, if it's truly an exceptional gecko and it's represented properly (clear, accurate photos or a well lit table display at a show), the gecko will sell.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 08:56:21 PM »

i personally think you missed the boat on whats popular. whats popular today might not be in 2-3 years
if youre just looking to make money i think you will find yourself dissapointed if youre basing your purchases on whats popular now.



I disagree about anyone missing the boat...awesome looking geckos are always in high demand.   It doesn't matter what morph it is, if it's truly an exceptional gecko and it's represented properly (clear, accurate photos or a well lit table display at a show), the gecko will sell.

well "awesome looking geckos" isnt really a morph now is it  Tongue
but i agree with that, if its and exception specimen it will get the price it deserves.
with that said, any of the crested morphs can turn into one, so it doesnt really matter

ill agree about pinstripes they are my favorite
id love to see a full pin from tail to eyes. that would be my prize geckos
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 08:59:01 PM »

yeah pin stripes are really nice. I love the one that anthonys got, the full pin, the one witht the dark body, i hope our baby looks osmethign liek it when it gets older
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2006, 09:37:57 PM »

All that being said, the most important thing I can tell you is that GOOD, CLEAN COLOR will always be hot.? It doesn't matter what the gecko is called if it makes someone's jaw hit the floor.? I have patternless geckos and partial pinstripes that I wouldn't sell for $500.

Point very well made! "What's in a name?"


For example i got a girl several years back that most people wouldn't throw a nickel at but i was willing to pay top dollar cause she was exactly what i was looking for. When i found out how much the breeder wanted i thought it was a great deal. The breeder on the hand thought i was a sucker for paying his asking price. In the end i feel i got the better end of the deal,? i got the girl i wanted and she's a joy to work with.


People are getting way too caught up in morphs and "names" in particular.? I can't help but laugh when people put two "high end morphs" together and don't get any of the colors and patterns they were hoping to produce. Variation in these animals is what i find to be the fun part of raising and breeding them.?


Its fun putting together GeckoA + GeckoB and getting = What the F@!*$ is that!


I'm even going the unconventional route to producing a creamsicle by using a very well know producer of creamsicles (Taz)an orange and cream male and a Dark Harley female. That's right i said, i'm using a dark harley female in hope of producing a creamsicle.

I know for a fact the dark harley female came from Anthony's creamsicle female a while back so just for fun i want to prove out that she is capable and certainly carrying the genes to produce a creamsicle!

Plenty of people told me it wasn't going to work but so far some of the offsrping look very promising. How tough is it to get rid of orange harley's (procuded from your creamies) sometimes AC? When most people don't realize that that would be the right step towards producing some of your own. Everyone wants a creamie or a red harley or whatever... How about selectively picking and choosing geckos you like and producing your own?

In the end, If it looks good (to you) and looks like a morph you'd be willing to work with, go for it... buy it!

Don't worry about what the gecko will be worth down the road. It's worth as much as you and your future customer are willing to pay for it.? Grin

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2006, 06:21:09 PM »

Its fun putting together GeckoA + GeckoB and getting = What the F@!*$ is that!

 Cheesy I like that. But nice reply bro. Well said.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2006, 03:53:27 PM »

Alright thanks everybody I am trying to get a pin because I love them and they are the geckos that when I see them I just can't look away Shocked! to bad there so much $$$ Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2006, 04:14:50 PM »

You can find good deals on them if you look around.  I saw one guy that had adult male full pinstripes for less than $100  Shocked but  I dont know if any were left.  I asked about one of them and he was already sold.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2006, 05:03:31 PM »

Was the man on drugs or something??? Huh
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2006, 05:04:34 PM »

He was thinning out his collection
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2006, 05:05:59 PM »

Lol, but still... He could have easily got alot more for a full pin than 100 bucks..
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2006, 05:07:32 PM »

Maybe...I saw them for sale for a few weeks before the price dropped.  I didnt see the ad anymore so i guess he sold them all
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2006, 06:31:41 PM »

I agree on putting the "type a +type b = wtf" because who knows, you could even make up a new morph. kinda like what would the babies of a nice tiger and a nice green look like?
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2006, 08:20:22 PM »

ya I got a full pinstripe male for 100 bucks a couple months ago they said he had a great temperment and was healthy. When he got here he had obiously had a serious calcuim crash and dropped his tail. everytime you touch him he spazs out and bites you. poor little guy just hanging on. If the price is too good to be true it probably is
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2006, 08:30:01 PM »

This was from a very well known breeder and seriously doubt he would jeopordise his reputation for $100.  A lot of other breeders sold cresteds cheap this year to move some out.  I bought some of them off of Repashy forums.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2006, 10:37:54 PM »

That's just crazy.  I wish I saw them!
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2006, 07:47:16 PM »

I agree on putting the "type a +type b = wtf" because who knows, you could even make up a new morph. kinda like what would the babies of a nice tiger and a nice green look like?
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2006, 01:44:21 PM »

Popular morphs are great, but you have to take into account that healthy but "dull" geckos are just as lively and fun to keep. I was lucky enough to find two juveniles at a local reptile show, that are doing well, for fifty dollars each. One is a very nice brindle and the other is a dull patternless. This goes to show you that you can find the occasional rose amongst the thorns, and there will always be people who don't take too much notice to expensive morphs, and will buy them for their docile nature as well as ease of care. Therefore, as long as you aren't looking to make a living out of this, breeding fairly dull animals will always make good money, just not as much as Anthony's.
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