*warning* disfigured gecko

[monster]

You said you have seen it there for quite a while, right? It could be something genetic. Hopefully it doesn't know the difference.

i saw him as a juvi, looked very normal. a couple months later two from that same batch were still there, him and another. both of their spins had begun to warp. someone bought the second guy and they continued bringing in new juvi's to house with him.

good new everyone! he's eating CGD like a champ 
still shy and nervous, he's exploring his tank and overall active.

He'll be winging his way to Buffalo, in a few weeks...

it's true, once he has a stable bill of healthhe'll be going home perminatly to Donna & Katie.

[samanthajane13]

Oh-Monster!!!

I'm sooo glad he's eating well-considering he'd been fed babyfood and crix before!!!! 

I found a little secret for getting them to eat if they're VERY picky.  When I mix up the CGD, I substitute pomegranate juice for half of the water for a couple of days.  It works EVERYTIME!!!  They love it!!!  And it's not nearly as sweet as the babyfood.  Then I  gradually switch to all water.  I've completely gotten rid of babyfood from the diet that way.

John said he'd hook me up with vet visits if we need them!!!  And he won't be doing any breeding unless the vet okays it-if he feels it's safe for him and not genetic.  But I'm not even putting any hope out for that-just by the look of him.

He'll be a spoiled, pampered PET crestie...NOT a stud.

How Popeye doing???  Have his arms ever gone back to normal at all???  Is he gonna be hitching a ride to Buffalo, too??

They're both more than welcome.  I've moved tanks around to make space for the 20 gallon high tank for the newbie, and I tipped the 29 gallon on end, in case Popeye comes along. 

Damn!!!  Now we're getting excited!!!

Hugs-
Donna & Katey

[nicolas du bois]

I got a male like that to
I was going to buy a nice healthy female by a breeder here in belgium and the told me he had a male that was also availeble and the male was just like urs
he said that he was going to breed him if no one did buy him
I said hell no so i bouth em...
now hes in its verry own terrarium with no other females so he will NEVER be bred.
like this, he is better off then giving unhealthy juvies isnt he ?
anyways love the color;)
keep up the good work

grts nicolas

[honuman]

I said hell no so i bouth em...
now hes in its verry own terrarium with no other females so he will NEVER be bred.
like this, he is better off then giving unhealthy juvies isnt he ?
anyways love the color;)
keep up the good work

grts nicolas

Nicolas -

It depends on the problem.  This appears to be dietary issue not a genetic one.  (although in this case since we don't know the whole history of this animal it is safer to avoid using it as a breeding animal)  If you know the history of animal and as long as the animal can be restored to good health (since it is not as calcium dependant as a female gecko would be) breeding him would most likely not be an issue.  His genes should be fine.  The only thing that might make me reconsider breeding an animal that has been through this is that he may be genetically predisposed to this sort of condition and pass that on to his offspring.

Guess I going around in circles here I just wanted to make the point that if this not a genetic condition it will not be passed on to the offspring.

[samanthajane13]

I'm just wondering if he could have had some kind of accident to be that twisted.  Maybe a fall-or maybe something fell on him and crushed and twisted him.

I'm sure the only way to know is an x-ray, but I wouldn't want to do that unless it became necessary.

I am going to take him to the vet for a check-up after he gets here and settles in.

[honuman]

This all looks like classic MBD really.  ALong with that bone breaks are very easily gotten so actually it could be a combination.   You know like they say about older folks.  They break their hip and fall. 

[samanthajane13]

"You know like they say about older folks.  They break their hip and fall. "

Yeah-MBD leading to osteoporosis...